That's not gone well. Smoke & oil everywhere.

"Nick Has an Exocet" (nickallain) 07/29/2017 at 18:56 • Filed to: None

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My dad got his oil changed today on his 2015 Nissan Rogue. He drove it home, mowed the lawn, then took it to the bank. On his way to the bank, he noticed a little smoke from the engine bay and he thought “he must has dripped a little when he changed the oil”. A minute later, smoke is pouring from everywhere around the car and he hears a loud bang (which is something because hearing isn’t my dad’s strong suit) and he pulls into a parking lot. The picture above is what he’s greeted to when he looks under the car.

From oil change to house is ~5 miles and from house to bank is about ~5 miles. He didn’t see any lights on the dash but wasn’t really looking.

When my mom checked the driveway, she saw some fresh oil drips where he parked after the oil change. My current theory is that the oil change guy forgot to put on or secure the filter and that it threw a rod through the oil pan (the bang). Unfortunately, I live 3000 miles away so I’m just phone-tech support on this one.

Echo51 > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:01

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awh man that sucks! I hope it turns out okay, please do give an update on this if the oil place/dealership cover it or what’s going to happend :)

Needmoargarage > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:04

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Oof. Oil change place is definitely responsible. Loud bang usually ends up being your theory.

Steve in Manhattan > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:07

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I smell a badly seated drain plug (and a new engine!) ...

BahamaTodd > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:18

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Interesting it didn’t detect low pressure.

From the 2015 Rouge owners manual:

Alfalfa > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:20

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Yikes. Overfilling could also be the culprit here, though I’m not sure a rod would be thrown so fast in that event. And it definitely sounds like it threw a rod.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:22

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My guess is when they pulled the old filter, the o ring stayed behind. They put on the new filter with it’s o ring and you know the rest. I did that once but caught it right away

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:22

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A bang could be a poorly-secured oil filter falling off.

Nick Has an Exocet > gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee 07/29/2017 at 19:24

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This is true! I hope that’s the case.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:24

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And people ask me why I drive 25 miles and have the dealer where I bought my car do my oil changes rather than taking it to a local quick lube place. This. This right here is the reason why. It costs about the same, roughly $25-30, and I suspect that the mechanics are a little more competent.

OK, a different dealer tried to screw me for a diagnostic fee claiming my CEL was on (it wasn’t, and their paperwork said as much), but I can fight back against that kind of thing. Blowing up a motor? That takes a little more time to resolve...

I’ve helped friends get things operational again and remove CELs after these quickie places leave hoses and other things disconnected, usually when they check the air filter to try to upsell you on maintenance you don’t need. Are they truly incompetent, or are they just taking massive shortcuts to pump as many cars through as possible? Or both?

Nick Has an Exocet > BahamaTodd 07/29/2017 at 19:25

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Yeah I’m surprised by that as well. Granted, when smoke is coming from my car, I may not even notice that.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:25

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Are are there so many shops and dealerships across this county that can’t seem to do one of the most basic things correctly?

Nick Has an Exocet > Steve in Manhattan 07/29/2017 at 19:26

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Ah yes, this could be the case as well. Something got rushed. It was the last car of the day before the shop closed.

Die-Trying > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:27

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dunno, that is still a LOT of oil under there, like all of 2 quarts........ might of got lucky, and heard the oil plug exiting, if he shut it off quickly after, there might be hope that the engine is okay..... you might ask for him to imitate any unusual sounds it was making before he got it shut off, ala cartalk........

random001 > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:31

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The universe asking why in hell he bought a Rogue?

Nick Has an Exocet > Die-Trying 07/29/2017 at 19:35

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He said it didn’t make any unusual noises aside from the bang, but again, there are people with hearing aids that hear better than he does.

Nick Has an Exocet > random001 07/29/2017 at 19:36

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His previous car was an Optima EX Turbo but it kept going into limp mode. My mom’s Nissan was always quite reliable so he bought one.

slipperysallylikespenguins > OPPOsaurus WRX 07/29/2017 at 19:38

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My first thought too as I did that last year. I caught it before damage though too. It also helped that it was a Jeep 4.0, they can survive without much oil

BahamaTodd > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:39

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For a major issue like that I would also expect an audible chime, but maybe that was could be missed too.

Steve in Manhattan > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 19:54

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Or oil filter not snugged, or oil pan damaged pulling it onto the lift, or some other error I can’t think of ... still, when an engine runs hot enough to BANG, it’s time for a replacement. And these places generally have decent insurance, so a new engine installed by a dealer might be possible.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 20:12

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Well, I can see the shop owing a lot of money on this one...

DrScientist > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 20:12

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i thought the poorly fitted plug or filter might be the issue. but the smoke prior to the bang makes me think it might be worse. is the filter on top of the engine or beneath it?

anyway... here’s hoping it IS one of those 2.

Nick Has an Exocet > DrScientist 07/29/2017 at 20:16

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Filter is underneath, I think.

DrScientist > Nick Has an Exocet 07/29/2017 at 20:23

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recently i changed the oil in my car. 5 minutes into driving, i got a little smoke. i didn’t think too much of it, because i was a bit messy.

drove 15 more minutes, more smoke, a lot more.

then i notice oil drips under.

opened the hood, oil splattered everywhere around the filter housing. checked the dipstick.... none on the stick. i was luckily 1/2 block from a pepboys, and because i was on my way to a meeting, had to just fill it up and hope i made it.

when i finally got back home, having filled it with an additional 8 qts, i checked the housing gaskets. the new gasket was much smaller than the prior. i put back the old one, tightened it up, filled it. its been fine since.

anyway, filter is on top of the engine, splattering oil onto the engine = smoke. i’d imagine if the filter is on the bottom of your dads engine this would be less likely. so i’m not sure where the smoke is coming from. unless the exhaust is right there.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 07/29/2017 at 22:14

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The local Subaru dealer overfilled my WRX and it cratered the engine. They never took responsibility. Instead, they fixed it under a warranty claim to Subaru corporate.

wafflesnfalafel > Nick Has an Exocet 07/30/2017 at 00:55

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Maybe an overfill? If the tech was a bonehead and it ended up with a few extra quarts it could have been pushing out the dipstick (the initial smoke up top,) then blew off the oil filter, (bang and oil gusher.)

wafflesnfalafel > wafflesnfalafel 07/30/2017 at 01:33

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One other thing - that oil looks awfully brown only to have a few miles on it. Maybe the tech simply didn’t drain the old oil?

PWRandSPD > Nick Has an Exocet 07/30/2017 at 08:34

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I had a Sonata Turbo, it did the same damn thing. At least 5 times in 2 years. I know your fathers pain.

Nick Has an Exocet > PWRandSPD 07/30/2017 at 15:07

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Turbo Solenoid, right? Crazy weak point on those cars.

PWRandSPD > Nick Has an Exocet 07/30/2017 at 16:25

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You better believe it. The car always chose to go when I was on the highway on the way to the airport or something for business, it’s like it knew. One time I only made it at best 3/4 of a mile from getting it fixed to it going again and turning right around to the dealer.